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★mei ([personal profile] meitachi) wrote2010-12-01 03:31 pm

do not deny my constitutional right to sex

Today in my Individual Rights class in the midst of discussion on Bowers v. Hardwick, our professor queried the big question(s): What fundamental rights are conveyed by the Constitution? What rights are inferred? What rights are protected even if they aren't explicitly stated in the Constitution?

The GA statute in question made criminal any contact between the genitals of one person and the mouth or anus of another. The Supreme Court held (this was in 1986 and has since been overturned by Lawrence v. Texas) that the Constitution does not convey the fundamental right for homosexuals to engage in sodomy.

PROFESSOR, TO CLASS: What do you think? Does our Constitution convey a right to rimming?
CLASS: *titters*
MEI: You know what rimming is--

Slash fandom has ruined me, you guys. Duh, it's not like anal sex or rimming is limited to the m/m portion of the sexual world. But kind of still "HAHA OH YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN CLASS, HOW AWKWARD..."

Anyway, my friend promptly turned to me and said: "You know this statute outlaws blowjobs too?"

Outrage! Clearly the Court was right in overturning this case.

And this was after we spent an hour debating abortion, during which a guy commented, on whether the graphic description of partial-birth abortion in one of the cases was necessary, "I don't think there's any medical procedure that is as horrifying as tearing off the head and limbs of a person. And if that's what you're doing, I don't see the problem is with describing it like that."

Oh, said the female half of the class.

"I have a feeling I'm not going to get to the later cases," said my professor, acknowledging how numerous hands just shot up around the room.


Man, I love this class and its ridiculousness. Lots of things said that make me angry or make me roll my eyes in utter disbelief, but seriously I love my professor, who says things like "That metaphor went as out of control as a city bus driven by a heroin addict," and "So I'm like a medieval minstrel," and "Marshall was actually responsible for the black robes the Supreme Court justices wore; before they all wore salmon-colored robes and it all looked very camp".

Also? He is Liverpool fan. ♥

[identity profile] xsharetheworld.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Ewwwwwww that abortion shit is nasty... >>

But lol-ing at the discussion of rimming. LOL
/would die laughing
XD

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Abortion debates always make me so angry. :( It's always the guys in the class voicing dumbshit opinions too and I kind of just want to be like SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP. But on the whole I do still love that class.

But let's focus on the lulz! RIMMING SHOULD BE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, Y/N.

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
it was totally excessively graphic. :( but oh they had reasons for it and, ugh, whatever.

LET'S FOCUS ON THE RIMMING. My prof makes the best random references haha.

[identity profile] jibrailis.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I love your professor. ♥

ahaha, I think I would have a jolt of surprise too if the majority of my class knew what rimming was. I mean, on one hand we're supposed to be librarians in training so combine us together and we should know everything under the sun, or be able to find out about it in ten seconds. But on the other hand, classmates, what the hell.

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah it's just something that doesn't really come up in casual conversation and is so inextricably linked to the filthy filthy parts of fandom in my head that I'm like "bwuh?" Because I know these people don't know fandom, filthy or otherwise (OR MAYBE THEY DO AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT?) so it's all very @_@

[identity profile] cyberrubis.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh..i wish my law school was hot like yours. Mine was pretty dull.

But I once had one brilliant class (out of thousand of dull ones, of course). It's about law of sexuality so we discussed a lot about homosexual, abortion, homo-parenting, etc. At some point, we reached to the moment that my professor claimed that a male transsexual prostitute with penis is the most expensive in market; or; another time, whether a man who loves being penetrated at his rear but only by a woman, will be considered as gay.

I don't even recall which court decision/law article led us to that extremely unnecessary,yet juicy,info..

ah..one precious moment in my law school life (lol)

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhh I actually took a class similar to that last year! Sexuality and the Law. Yep, we talked about awesome topics in there. Huh, did not know those trivia tidbits but now I do...

Definitely a more fun/interesting class than most, for sure.

[identity profile] jaded-skys.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's always the guys in the class voicing dumbshit opinions too and I kind of just want to be like SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.

I hate to generalize, but it's almost always the guys who say dumbass shit because they never have to be in the situation.

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, that is basically my thought. :/ but I figure it is not terribly polite to just shout in class "OH MY GOD SHUT UP, YOU WILL NEVER BE PREGNANT OR IN THIS POSITION" though I've wanted to. So we work on shooting down their arguments instead.
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[identity profile] forochel.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHHAHAA your professor is aces


also, omg, inorite! I read an article on New Who the other day and it talked about how slash goggles are trained into one, which is so true!


technically everything except the missionary position is still outlawed in Singapore, I think. oh, colonial leftovers.

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Missionary position! With the lights off! After marriage!
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[identity profile] forochel.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
also, re:abortion, oh man that's such a sticky issue. on one hand I'm a fierce believer in the choice of the mother, but on the other hand in biology class we watched a video of abortion where they somehow managed to film the process of a foetus being taken apart to pieces and vacuumed out and just. it was pretty painful to watch and I can totally understand the kneejerk no some people have to abortion. I never want to be faced with the choice - or get pregnant at all, really, but I think I might just carry to term and then give the baby away. ><; /is a wuss.

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
yess see that's the thing. I don't know if I could ever get an abortion personally, but I don't think that means no one else should be allowed. And yes the kneejerk response is what the Court is going for with an excessively graphic description of the procedure using words like 'mother' and 'baby' because of all the cultural and moral associations we have in society. In reality, there's still a debate over whether the fetus is actually a 'baby', and whether that would make the woman a 'mother' or just 'pregnant'. So. @_@ Yeah.
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[identity profile] forochel.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
basically!
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[identity profile] forochel.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
yeah; if it were rape then, yeah. but again, I really don't want to ever be in that position. and yeah that debate over at what stage a foetus enters 'personhood' is really sticky. like, in biology you learn that it goes from a blastocyte to a zygote (or was it the other way around?) and basically cells multiply really quickly to form the shape we recognise as human so. I guess it's the whole 'soul'/'consciousness' thing, I guess. how do we know whether the thing can feel pain or not? and everything I'm saying now is based on contemporary understandings of modern science, which is defined by the current western cultural paradigm. it's all so complicated. ))):

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
and so much modern science (which is constantly changing) vs. religion too, so it's extra-complicated! Good times for all, or not.

Oh well at least my professor is adorable and hilarious!

[identity profile] black-goose.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, I would probably never get an abortion (can't say for definite since I've never been in that situation) but my feelings are not someone else's feelings and their choice shouldn't be taken away. Guys weighing into the debate doesn't annoy me as much as women who are all NO YOU SHOULD HAVE THE BABY PRO-LIFE PRO-LIFE when it's like, you're a woman! why are you trying to take choices away from yourself.
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[identity profile] forochel.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
yeah! and you could argue that science is in a way a religion so. OKAY HAPPY THINGS:


IT'S SNOWING!!!

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
WHY ARE YOU EXCITED UGH TIRED OF SNOW, HATE WALKING/DRIVING IN IT. Or maybe I'm just grumpy because it's exam season haha. I'd probably appreciate snow a lot more if all I had to do was...not school...

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
ugh all sorts of personal reasons, I guess, which is fine - but why force your personal reasons on other people? It's not like it applies the same for everyone... D: Idk, at least it's still a woman making a decision about her body (and...other women's bodies, if she's like BE PRO-LIFE OR ELSE).

As for guys, I'm fine if they have opinions - it's a controversial subject, for sure. But when it gets to the point where a guy's arguing with a woman about what she SHOULD do, and telling her what HE thinks she should do, I'm like, whoa, back off here, this is her body, not yours, this is not something you will ever have to decide or go through, you have no idea how complicated it might be, STEP BACK YO.
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[identity profile] forochel.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect I might tire of it ... but eventually. it's so pretty to watch *___*

[identity profile] sickletongue.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
lol has it ruined you or enlightened you? ;)

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
hahaha I have always loved your icon ♥

Let's just say I would prefer to remain unenlightened as to just how enlightened my professor is.

[identity profile] meritjubet.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Naturally a woman would never know what is best for her and must be guided by a paternal hand to the right choice. And then she's on her own, because hello, shouldn't have opened her legs.

At least your judges don't wear wigs any more! Ha XD

Sex and professors? I like to think them as celibate for education. Yes.

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-02 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Do your judges still wear wigs? :O I don't know how I feel about that. So hot and uncomfortable - can you still focus on the case/law? T_T
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[personal profile] chrestomanci 2010-12-03 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I was skimming through my flist and saw "Court" capitalized and was like, huh, wait, I did what? Oh...

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-03 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
hahahaha GOSH COURTZ NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT YOU
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[personal profile] chrestomanci 2010-12-03 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
WAIT WHAT what do you mean :(( omg heartbroken

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-03 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
IT'S OKAY I STILL LOVE YOU. HERE IS A KITTEN ICON. ♥

[identity profile] kasugai-gummie.livejournal.com 2010-12-05 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
/SCREAM

KITTY OMG KITTY ;_:

[identity profile] kasugai-gummie.livejournal.com 2010-12-05 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I want your professor now. Can we have him once you're done with him?

[identity profile] kasugai-gummie.livejournal.com 2010-12-05 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
AND IT GETS BETTER.

[identity profile] lady-androgene.livejournal.com 2010-12-05 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So adorab- *drowns in the cute*

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Mayyyyyybe - well, why not, I'm leaving for Singapore after this semester!

[identity profile] meiface.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
aslkdhfd I LOVE CUTE KITTIES. They are better than studying for exams!