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let's talk about kpop.
May. 13th, 2010 10:11 pmI thought I was going to spend today coding up my SPN/J2 pimp post. Sadly, that looks like it'll have to wait for another day.
Today, I'm going to meta.
I figure a lot of you don't know what's going on with the Wincon08 drama and don't think you care because it's in SPN fandom and you're not in the fandom. The fact of the matter is, it's not fandom drama - it's about the realities of what constitues sexual assault and what kind of attitudes and actions perpetuate that (both inside and outside fandom).
But I get that a lot of people reading this journal are more in-the-know about kpop. So let's talk about kpop. Let's talk about what I find problematic with kpop and how it - like every other fandom in the world, fictional or real person, Western or not - contributes to problems of sexism, racism, transphobia, homophobia, lots of other -isms, lots of other -phobias, and so on. Because all fandoms do not exist within a vacuum and the things we say and do in fandom affect (and are affected by) Real Life, which includes our own innate prejudices as well as society's prejudices.
Disclaimer: this post will focus heavily on my experiences within SJ fandom in particular because that is what I know. Thus there is more emphasis on fans who like their boysex and discount women; I'm not trying to dismiss the existing and very much active girl group fandoms. And yes, while these are mostly my own experiences and observations, I do think that what I'm trying to say does apply beyond just my corner of experiences. (And thank you so much to![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
peachgirldb, mardisgrasmaven, 2naonh3_cl2, and transitorial for being soundboards.)
( Because you know it got long. )
Today, I'm going to meta.
I figure a lot of you don't know what's going on with the Wincon08 drama and don't think you care because it's in SPN fandom and you're not in the fandom. The fact of the matter is, it's not fandom drama - it's about the realities of what constitues sexual assault and what kind of attitudes and actions perpetuate that (both inside and outside fandom).
But I get that a lot of people reading this journal are more in-the-know about kpop. So let's talk about kpop. Let's talk about what I find problematic with kpop and how it - like every other fandom in the world, fictional or real person, Western or not - contributes to problems of sexism, racism, transphobia, homophobia, lots of other -isms, lots of other -phobias, and so on. Because all fandoms do not exist within a vacuum and the things we say and do in fandom affect (and are affected by) Real Life, which includes our own innate prejudices as well as society's prejudices.
Disclaimer: this post will focus heavily on my experiences within SJ fandom in particular because that is what I know. Thus there is more emphasis on fans who like their boysex and discount women; I'm not trying to dismiss the existing and very much active girl group fandoms. And yes, while these are mostly my own experiences and observations, I do think that what I'm trying to say does apply beyond just my corner of experiences. (And thank you so much to
peachgirldb, mardisgrasmaven, 2naonh3_cl2, and transitorial for being soundboards.)( Because you know it got long. )
