meta babble on RPF/RPS

[meitachi]

Firstly: Happiest of birthdays to my best suxing and forochel and (because it's likely I won't post again tomorrow) catskilt. To say nothing yet of the 26th, 27th, and 28th... So many May babies!

Secondly: So I was reading some people's thoughts on RPF/RPS and got kind of curious about the flist.

Do you guys have any strong feelings for or against RPF? I know a lot of you guys enjoy it/read it/write it considering that a lot of you I met, uh, in the kpop fandom. So.

I can enjoy almost anything in fiction because I have this huuuge mental barrier between reality and fiction so gay brotherly (apocalyptic) incest? I'm so there. Korean boy band members macking on each other? Sign me up. RL married actors ~falling in love with each other~? No problemo.

Why? Because I like to read what I like to read and I know that it's fiction, very much so, and at most these are merely original characters with the same faces and names as real people. They're characters, even if they're based on real people. (Do you want to read My Thoughts on Yaoi KiHae? Of course you do, heh.) I very much do not believe that Jared and Jensen are in any way shape or form gay for each other, or that Eunhyuk and Donghae are actually anything beyond good friends who like to play up fanservice (well, mostly Donghae with a sort of reluctant Eunhyuk tagging along). ...not that I ship EunHae romantically anyway, uh.

But I know some people don't have the same kind mental barrier and are uncomfortable with RPF/RPS. Which is totally fine. Personal squicks, I get them, as long as no one is trying to judge people who enjoy RPF as somehow sick or somehow invading the privacy of real people. That makes me sad. That makes me kind of annoyed, actually. 'Cause, hey, it's all harmless, in good fun, not exactly meant to be portraying True Facts, etc. Hell, it doesn't even count as fanfiction (legally) - no infringement on copyright, y'all! Writing RPF can get you sued for defamation though, so, uh, it's harmless as long as you don't go shoving your fic in the faces of the people it's about. That is kind of monumentally stupid, rude, and awkward-making. And other negative adjectives. :|

But these are just my thoughts and opinions on RPF. I feel like I've encountered a scary number of fans who, um, really think QMi (KyuMin, EunHae, KangTeuk, JaeHo, insert-kpop-pairing-of-choice) is real or something? And all those J2 tinhatters omgggg make it stop. Yes, fuck yes, they are close and they have a good relationship but that doesn't mean that they are actually in love/fucking up the butt/what-have-you. Not that it would be a problem if they were but let's not make assumptions about their love lives when RL evidence indicates otherwise and that they are nothing but really good friends, yeah? I'm all for writing about it, but when you really start believing it... Then I am slightly concerned, frightened, and distressed. And will be backing away slowly.

In other news, I have been reading a fuckton of gay brotherly (apocalyptic) incest lately. This pimp post, I'm drafting it, forreals. In between epic amounts of reading (and packing and moving and sweating buckets, god this weather). Man, I love summer.


(It doesn't count as talking about kpop if I'm just talking about the meta fandom! ...or so I tell myself. Moratorium still in effect: not broken but slightly...bent?)

Comments

[forochel.livejournal.com]

I WAS YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE AND THE LOTR ACTORS LOVED MACKING ON EACH OTHER




QED I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ANYTHING EXCEPT ADULTERY AND BESTIALITY.

[forochel.livejournal.com]

OH AND ALSO PEOPLE FORGET THAT THEY'RE WRITING ABOUT INTERPRETATIONS OF REAL PEOPLE NOT THE ACTUAL PEOPLE. BASICALLY OCs THAT SHARE THEIR FACES AND SOME MANNERISMS.

[forochel.livejournal.com]

BEST THING ABOUT GK?

MY DISCLAIMER READS: THIS FIC IS BASED ON THE PORTRAYALS OF THESE REAL PEOPLE BY THESE ACTORS IN THE HBO MINISERIES GENERATION KILL.



SO AM I WRITING RPF OR NOT? AM I A BUTTERFLY OR A MAN? DO I LEAVE PROTEIN-RICH MESSAGES IN THE AIR WHEN I FLY IN A CERTAIN PATTERN? /pratchett

[meiface.livejournal.com]

alskdghfj the disclaimers on RPF where people are disclaiming ownership of these RL people make me facedesk. OTL

[forochel.livejournal.com]

... ok that is more than a wee bit silly. :|



MEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IN MY BIRTHDAY POST ... I WROTE HET SUJU FIC. WHAT IS HAPPENING? WHAT IS HAPPENING? *needs your THE WORLD IS CRUMBLING AROUND US icon*

[meiface.livejournal.com]

GASP, WHAT HET.

...THE WORLD IS INDEED CRUMBLING AROUND US. You are officially writing more kpop than I am at the moment! 8D

[forochel.livejournal.com]

MY FRIEND REQUESTED IT (http://forochel.livejournal.com/307343.html?thread=6036367#t6036367).


WHY IS THIS EVEN MY LIFE.

[meiface.livejournal.com]

MY GOD, HOW AWFUL WOULD IT HAVE TO BE TO MOVE IN WITH YOUR HUSBAND'S BAND INTO A DORM?

That said it looks like Shindong will probably be the first to marry. And Eeteuk's thinking of going into the army in 2011 or 2012. And no one knows if Heechul is exempt or not. SJ dramaz~ /cares little

[forochel.livejournal.com]

I KNOW! I JUST BOGGLED AT THE PROMPT AND okay I have to admit, I thought, "...this is like something a twelve year old fangirl writing on ff.net would think of" BECAUSE I AM MEAN, OKAY, I AM MEAN AND JADED AND HORRIBLE AND- D:

I wanted to make it Shindong, but I couldn't remember which dorm he lives in. ): Why on earth would Heechul be exempt?!

[meiface.livejournal.com]

He lives on...the 12th floor, rooms with Donghae, where Heechul and Hankyung and Eeteuk are. /useless knowledge, fmml

Because of his accident and his shoddy leg, Heechul might be exempt. Then again, they might consign him to a desk job (there are plenty of those too), so no one knows for sure?

[forochel.livejournal.com]

... LOLOLOLOLOL oh, you. well I remember from some episode that my friend made me watch that Yesung lived with Ryeowook and Sungmin in the quiet dorm! So yes.

Ohhhhhhhh. Yeahh, he'll definitely be a clerk, then. The only way you're ever exempt from national service is if, like, you're not a national. Even people with spinal injuries have to do NS.

[meiface.livejournal.com]

Ahhhh tough life. :\ Eh, oh well. So they go. Apparently in the military you dig a lot of holes. And then you fill them back up. Of course, that was during peacetime. Tensions are high between N. Korea and S. Korea now...

[nyw.livejournal.com]

Haha actually I know a guy who's exempt from NS because he had brain cancer as a child. It's gone now but he still doesn't have to serve.

[nyw.livejournal.com]

OMG I SAW MEI'S SUMMARY OF IT AND THOUGHT "WAIT A MINUTE, YOU MEAN HONGER'S NOT THE ONLY PERSON TO WANT THIS -" and clicked on it and realised it was her :/

Yeah so do you know whom she actually wants to see this fic with :|

[forochel.livejournal.com]

XD

Um, Eeteuk?

[forochel.livejournal.com]

... I HAVE TO SAY THOUGH I WASN'T SHIPPING THEM WHEN I WAS 10. IN FACT I WAS VERY CRUSHED BY THE FACT THAT DOMINIC MONAGHAN APPARENTLY HAD A GIRLFRIEND. I WAS TEN, OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS AWESOME THAT ORLANDO BLOOM HAD FALLEN OUT OF A WINDOW AND BROKE HIS BACK AND YET COULD STILL PLAY A PONCY ELF.

[meiface.livejournal.com]

Query! Do you mean you have problems with adultery in fic, as in, a married character is having an affair? Do you have problems with people writing RPF about people who are married IRL? Just curious~

Um, you shipping(?) LOTR actors at 10 is both hilarious and terrifying. I DO REMEMBER THE ORLANDO BLOOM FALLING OUT OF A WINDOW STORY THOUGH HAHAHA. I mean, sympathy pains...?

[forochel.livejournal.com]

Good questions! I don't normally have problems with adultery in fic, as long as it's handled gracefully or if it, um, adds to the literary value of the story? But I have problems if it's RPF and the people are married. It's why I could never really get into Kradam!

ALKDSJLAJ I DIDN'T SHIP THEM!! I was sad about Dominic Monaghan having a girlfriend because I believed that when I turned 20 the age gap wouldn't be as hinormous. Of course, now that I am a year away from 20, the age gap is still bloody fucking hinormous. But I think I was very titillated by them snogging each other and all that. So maybe subconsciously I shipped them. Uh.

[meiface.livejournal.com]

Hm you appear not to be alone at all in your unwillingness/inability to RPF/ship married people. It makes sense! I, on the other hand, apparently have no morals. Oh well. :( More fic to enjoy, hopefully!


The way my brother subconsciously shipped SasuNaru thanks to my undue influence? :3

[forochel.livejournal.com]

it is quite terrible, because it makes it hard to read fic! >: especially for bandom, now that they're all going off and getting married and stuff. poot.


... yes, rather.